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PRIMUS Database users are welcome to nominate articles found within the wiki for consideration to be featured on the top page. Page of the Month is decided by your votes, so be sure to make your voice count!

• Nominations for each voting period close at midnight on the 7th of every month.
• One official vote per user per month. You are allowed to change your vote during the month, but only the last one counts. Honorable mentions do not count as votes.
• You are allowed to vote for your own page.
• Be sure to add your comments to the bottom of the list.
• Try to give a short reason for your nomination.
• Make sure you sign your comments with your username!

Votes for May 2014

--Add your nominations below.--

Host,because he has made the whole story...interesting...AND he combined power armor and sorcery!Amazing hero,and amazing job done there! Fog50

I would like to nominate CharmCaster. It's very detailed and makes great use of in-game screens. -Vitality

Throwing my vote at Lash. No, she's not a spell caster, but the origin is magical. The page is well laid out, and the character is interesting. - User:Gijoespouse

As Charmcaster was already spoken for, the extra votes from CONQUER were removed. Commentary is still up in the section below. --Δ Epelesker (talk) 10:08, 9 April 2014 (MST)

...I'm going to throw my vote for consideration to Canadian Fist - Mr.Bushido

Well, this is interesting to say the least. However, my vote goes to Magic Girl. My reason is that I like the use of in-game screens and the art done looks nice, the CONTENT of the page is also interesting. - Mentella

I think I'll vote for Grimoire this month. It's a rather nice page and it's a good representation of magic from the imaginal realms.-Jarne

Juanita has always been one of my favorite pages to read and look at. The pictures and colors really blend well with the style of the character. A really neat page that I'd like to nominate. Leroy's Wish (talk) 10:54, 9 April 2014 (MST)

My nomination is going to Leonard Castellar. - Oboe Shoes

I nominate Divael, very interesting read. -- Cookiegobbler (talk) 21:13, 9 April 2014 (MST)

It's rare I ever vote for a PotM nomination, but I'm going for my bud, Magic Girl. Her page has some humor with a mix of pop culture and a very tragic origin story of what shaped her character into what she is today. Its very entertaining as well and for that my vote goes to you MG - Velocity 10:09, 10 April 2014 (EST)

Other Comments

The most recent entry of the Admin Blog touches on the reason why we've opted to change things up this month. Give it a read! --Δ Epelesker (talk) 10:08, 9 April 2014 (MST)

((Just so you silly peeps know, this is Theme Month, so votes here are for nominations. The actual winner will be decided by the moderators, not the number of nominations. It will return to the previous way next month :P)) --FrozenViolet (talk) 20:30, 8 April 2014 (MST)

• Oh it's moderator's choice now huh? How convenient that votes don't matter for this month. Oh well, darn. -Caliga, Despot of Conquer

Epelesker posted the updated rules yesterday,but I think it was also posted that this month was going to have a theme and different rules. I was actually guilty of forgetting them earlier today. --FrozenViolet (talk) 21:23, 8 April 2014 (MST)

The rules for this contest are right above your votes, it would be wise to, you know, read them before voting. [[User:Leroyswish|@leroyswish]] (talk) 08:20, 9 April 2014 (MST)

• I read them. This was more or so just a demonstration, and a message. I won't go into detail, but I'm sure most understand my implication. -Caliga, Despot of Conquer

Actually: No. I think whatever your reasons are, they must be pretty silly. - BlackMethos

I don't see a message. I see petulant tantrums because you can't just throw in a lot of votes and get anything out of it. I enjoy the new rules, in all honesty. It opens up a new era into this popularity contest. --Mr.Bushido

How cute. And all I see since 2011 is a rigged voting system where actual decent pages don't even have a chance at PoTM because a group of elitists decides to keep it segregated to their own "exclusive" little friend's club. You can say whatever you want, but you can't deny the problem isn't there. I hope the moderators and admin find a solution soon, because if not, my Supergroup will make it very hard for your little "inner circle" to vote in anymore of your friends. -Caliga, Despot of Conquer

• The new rules that are only in effect for a month? Short era.

The above mentioned AdminBlog entry mentions this, but I'll repeat it here: we're using Theme Month as a benchmark for possibilities down the road. But for that to happen, we need participation and constructive feedback. "Demonstrations" only exacerbate the status quo issue we've already heard loud and clear. --Δ Epelesker (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2014 (MST)

If you look at the AdminBlog, there's been talk of changing the format for PotM since October last year. This is just the first trial run of a new way of handling it. Personally, I like the nomination process. It widens the pool of possible winners. It got really old seeing the same groups voting for their own members pages. While PotM will ALWAYS be a popularity contest, it's nice to see something being done to at least make it a little more fair for all involved. Let's all untwist our nickers, and instead of be passive aggressive about it, maybe offer some feedback as to how to make the new format work better. --User:Gijoespouse

Well I do hope you are right User:Gijoespouse. I would love to see a new form of how PoTM is handled rather than the inner circle voting for their friends over and over again. The fact that I am the only PoTM winner since 2011 that is not a part of CORP should send flags up. Every winner in the past has ties to each other. Either it being in the same SG, the alt of a user that already won so that they can have 2 pages up there, or friends. It's very obvious none of these pages were found at random if you look at the relationship they all have to each other. I hope the changes come soon as they can, in a stable condition, or this will just keep repeating. Both the CO general community, and the CORP community I'm sure will benefit much better. -Caliga, Despot of Conquer

This isn't about elitism, or about picking friends to win. This has nothing to do with pages outside of CORP winning; the winners just happen to be winners since we especially encourage voting amongst several communities. And you're right, several past players have won repeatedly, or close friends have won soon after the other has. But you have to realize that a page winning does little more than recognize that page. You don't win money or a prize, you don't ascend up a figurative ladder. It's for fun, and it's clear it has stopped being fun for some people. However, this change is a result of the admins and moderators looking to improve. This is, perhaps, a trial to see how this goes. It is fair and we should all appreciate the care being taken. Leroy's Wish (talk) 14:27, 10 April 2014 (MST)

Who cares? Stop caring so much. This whole thing is so goddamn pointless it makes my head hurt. - Swixer

I think this is being taken too seriously, in my honest opinion. While you raise some points, you also have to realize that out of the seemingly hundreds of people that use this website, the page nominations only receive a simple fraction of the population. That alone is fact alone that the larger majority of these people see this as simple fun and not something to be taken so serious, which has now happened. Personally, there isn't anything to improve or change for the better though I do appreciate and acknowledge it's merits as I have said above. This crusade will bring you nothing but bring you and subsequently your supergroup in a bad position by rigging it. It hasn't been rigged. It just so happens that the same people vote with little to no opposition outside of select people, who often vote for the same winners. -- @Mr.Bushido1991

sorry champ, but you can't have your cake, eat it and then have your pals swarm the bakery to grab the next cake

all cake and no play makes jack a fat manchild - He Who Must Not Be Namedropped

You expect me not too take it seriously? Those are easy words for a CORP member, who is also a PoTM winner, and that is aimed at you too Swixer. Neither of you don't know what it's like to be on the other side of the fence, so don't pretend you can take a neutral stance on the matter. I shouldn't be the one fighting so adamantly about this issue, because this was a problem created by the "CORP clique" when a pattern in PoTM selection was noticed and brought up for discussion in the AdminBlog. My Supergroup shares my convictions, and our "crusade" will continue until something is done, that will be more of a fair selection to all that participate in the PoTM. I can't take the word of any CORP member seriously that doesn't interact with the general CO community, it's forums, or ingame populace of non-members. I've been part of the CO community for a long time, and the general consensus and view of CORP is often "Elitist", "Isolated", and "Hostile". Not all of you are like that, but most of you isolate yourselves to the "CORP clique" so badly that I would even go as far to say it is considered taboo to interact otherwise with any non-members. No matter how well you sugar coat your words, or how well you provide your argument, it still does not help show the fact that since the first PoTM, every single winner are all conveniently related to each other too closely. - Caliga, Despot of Conquer

"Convictions"? "Crusade"? Really? - Zeiciq

Yes really. And it will continue until the system changes, no matter what any of you say. - Caliga, Despot of Conquer

This is literally the stupidest thing. http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/036/36c.gif - SomethingWitty

http://i.imgur.com/hMTyVCH.jpg - Zeiciq

Can we just fuck this? Seriously, the way you morons kill yourselves over a meaningless title and empty prizes is almost sickening. I usually try to refrain from being this frank, but if you honestly take this whole thing so seriously, you need to wake up, go outside and stop allowing your life to revolve around your interactions with strangers on the internet. There is no "crusade" and there is no "CORP clique". There are just the delusions and misgivings of frustrated individuals attempting to fabricate external reasons for their personal failures and insecurities. The reason people vote for their friends? Those are the pages they bothered to look at. Is there swarm voting by friends and SG members? Fuck yes. What of it? What are you really going to do about people voting for pages they like by people they like? Force people to vote for pages they've never seen because it somehow makes them better people? This general consensus you've come to is typically formed by people who avoid CORP, surprisingly. Funnily enough, you're going to find more people who hate CORP outside of CORP because they hate it. Not all of us but most of us? Are you really arguing for taking individuals seriously whilst making sweeping generalisations based on this grotesque sense of entitlement you seem to have? Wanna know who I interact with? My friends. I don't care about these idiot cliques you say exist. I interact with people I enjoy interacting with not because I'm an elitist but because I'm playing a fucking game and my objective is to have fun. If I don't want to play with you, I'm doing it because I don't think doing so would be fun. It's not considered taboo to interact with people outside of CORP outside of your schoolboy fantasies of conspiracies and lies which hold you back from being everyone's favourite person. You don't want me to sugar coat my words? Fine. You're absolutely pathetic and I pity you for caring this much about a pointless internet award run by semi-competent moderators who take their jobs too seriously on a website that's only barely keeping itself alive. This is going to be my very last post, but I'm fully aware it won't be yours so enjoy your righteous crusade, using your clique to fight the very concept of cliques like the shit-flinging hypocrite you are. I will continue to play a game with my friends. Congrats on making me waste my time on effort on trying to get the concept of priorities through the thick skull of an egomaniac. Have a nice day. -- Swixer

Thank you for the compliment. -- Caliga, Despot of Conquer

stickin' it to the man

this is caliga, he fights for your freedom - He Who Must Not Be Namedropped

What strong convictions. - Zeiciq

If we're going to bring up the specifics of who won what, Astromancer and his player aren't related to CORP whatsoever and that article won last September-- before that supergroup sweep that's got a lot of complaint airtime already.
I'm afraid of how blunt this sounds, but in response to Caliga: this whole argument about PotM is no different from someone complaining that the winners of any given costume contest (as per the schedule on Contests-Central) are likely to be the same people and supergroups that run the contests themselves-- Conquer included. And I can guarantee that if any one of us were to bring that up in PHT zonal chat, the answer would be a) "it's not bias, just a matter of our personal taste" and/or b) "shut up and run your own damned contest if you don't like it". It makes no sense, by that logic, how we're supposedly in the wrong, especially when you're accusing us right in the middle of trying to fix it. --Δ Epelesker (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2014 (MST)